Booya_base
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I actually have the Atari ST power pack and it IS amazing. Congrats on having an OP that had Bombuzal in it, unbelievably good game.
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Did any system ever have a better pack-in than the US Turbo Duo?
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The Genesis we got in the 90s came with the 6-Pak and Sonic 2.
Other than that I'd say the Atari ST power pack was pretty crazy.
Came in here to say this, but upon reflecting, I think OP's got me beat.
Custom Cover.
I just bought Gate of Thunder & Lords of Thunder on Wii Virtual Console on Saturday night.
I had played some of the way through Gate of Thunder back 1993 or 1994, after the TurboDuo was released in the U.S. and bought mine. It was pretty damn awesome. However I never bought Lord of Thunder, so last night was my first time playing it. Incredible game given the hardware.
Guys, I cannot help wonder what Hudson Soft (and Red) would've managed had they created direct sequels to both games. Imagine if, instead of using the PC-Engine + Super CD-ROM² format again, they used the more powerful SuperGrafx base machine, combined with the Arcade Card format. I know I'm purposely excluding the PC-FX here.
Anyway, with the SuperGrafx as a base, it afforded modest upgrades.
*Work RAM: 32K (instead of 8K)
*VRAM: 128K (instead of 64K)
*Max sprites: 128 vs 64
*Hardware background layers: 2 vs 1
The Arcade CD card added a further 2048 kB RAM cache. (aka 16 megabits for a total of 18 megs. What do you think?
I just bought Gate of Thunder & Lords of Thunder on Wii Virtual Console on Saturday night.
I had played some of the way through Gate of Thunder back 1993 or 1994, after the TurboDuo was released in the U.S. and bought mine. It was pretty damn awesome. However I never bought Lord of Thunder, so last night was my first time playing it. Incredible game given the hardware.
Guys, I cannot help wonder what Hudson Soft (and Red) would've managed had they created direct sequels to both games. Imagine if, instead of using the PC-Engine + Super CD-ROM² format again, they used the more powerful SuperGrafx base machine, combined with the Arcade Card format. I know I'm purposely excluding the PC-FX here.
Anyway, with the SuperGrafx as a base, it afforded modest upgrades.
*Work RAM: 32K (instead of 8K)
*VRAM: 128K (instead of 64K)
*Max sprites: 128 vs 64
*Hardware background layers: 2 vs 1
The Arcade CD card added a further 2048 kB RAM cache. (aka 16 megabits for a total of 18 megs. What do you think?
I think it would have only been played by the only 200 people who had a SuperGrafx.
manzo
Member
For some reason this just hit me. The SuperGrafx was basically PS4 Pro back then. The biggest hindrance for both were that they used their original versions' processors. The SGX was a nice, modest upgrade, but the original slow HuC processor made most of the upgrades moot.
deadscreensky
Member
Some of the Sega bundles were arguably comparable, but the US Turbo Duo bundle is definitely up there and I'm pretty sure it was a launch thing.
Yes indeed it was.
You're also right about the modest upgrades and the original processor being a hindrance.
I guess that can also be said about the PS4 Pro CPU, although unlike the SuperGrafx which had the same CPU clockspeed, the Pro's CPU is clocked higher.
For those that have not seen these, here are some homebrew SuperGrafx demos, both horizontal shmups. These were not even unfinished commercial products that got canceled from the early-mid 90s but much more recent homebrews.
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQaUNabRiy8
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj0vkSPg20E
Nice parallax.
I'm just assuming of course this stuff was made within the real limitations of the SGX hardware.
Edit: And obviously, even the base PC-Engine is capable of good parallax, as seen in certain games. Like Dead Moon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzMKgbTS2Y
No SuperGrafx here, no extra CD memory either.
Spriggan Mark II is another good one, though its a SCD game. https://youtu.be/bPNM_tnIjZg?t=7m36s
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jobrro
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If you really want to go for quantity AND diversity, it's honestly hard to top this
Gears Ultimate (thus Gears 1, 2, 3, and Judgement if you got it during the Gears promotion), Ori and the Blind Forest, and Rare Replay (already 30 games on its own)
Was reading this thread and saw the NES mini stuff and immediately thought of Rare Replay but didn't know it was bundled. That bundle comes with Rare Replay and much more. I think it wins for sure.
qualitydisc
Member
Can't beat it for $99.
Unbeatable set. I wish I had bought a couple extra when Sears had them on clearance for $50.
Fake edit: Krejlooc banned again? lol
Dreamwriter
Member
When did they start packing Ninja Spirit with the Turbo Duo? That's an awesome game. At launch the Duo came with Dungeon Explorer as its game-card game, which was a fun Gauntlet clone.
For folks saying it sounds desperate to pack all that in, there were reasons. First off, Bomberman wasn't officially part of the pack-in games; it was a secret Easter egg on the Super CD and the publisher TTI may not have known about it. Second, they included one of each type of game media the device supported: CD, Super CD, game card. Third, the device was expensive as hell and competing with the Sega CD, so they needed to show value for it. The CD game, Ys Books 1&2, was the most popular CD game on Turbografx at the time, and a great game to show the potential with its amazing CD soundtrack, voice acting, and cartoon cutscenes. The SuperCD was the one TTI had made for the Turbo Duo; Bonk was the system mascot so of course his two games got on there, and Gate of Thunder was the packin that actually took advantage of the Super CD format so was there to show that off.
For folks saying it sounds desperate to pack all that in, there were reasons. First off, Bomberman wasn't officially part of the pack-in games; it was a secret Easter egg on the Super CD and the publisher TTI may not have known about it. Second, they included one of each type of game media the device supported: CD, Super CD, game card. Third, the device was expensive as hell and competing with the Sega CD, so they needed to show value for it. The CD game, Ys Books 1&2, was the most popular CD game on Turbografx at the time, and a great game to show the potential with its amazing CD soundtrack, voice acting, and cartoon cutscenes. The SuperCD was the one TTI had made for the Turbo Duo; Bonk was the system mascot so of course his two games got on there, and Gate of Thunder was the packin that actually took advantage of the Super CD format so was there to show that off.
It almost seems like TTI kept adding more pack-in games. I don't remember Ninja Spirit being included in my Turbo Duo, which I bought at Babbage's.
Oh hello nevermind, wikipedia entry:
Mine came with Dungeon Explorer.
Oh hello nevermind, wikipedia entry:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TurboDuo
Mine came with Dungeon Explorer.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
cantona222
Member
Please provide a picture of the Turbo Duo package or ad that mentions the bundled games. I am really interested.
I agree with you banned OP, the bundle is great.
I agree with you banned OP, the bundle is great.
Well, for starters, it's not a console since you can't add to it.
hooijdonk17
Member
Yes.
MrCunningham
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The Sega CD that I had back in the day came with the following pack-in games...
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Sewer Shark, Sega 5-in-1 Genesis collection, Sonic CD and Ecco the Dolphin CD. It was a pretty solid pack-in, to be honest.
My first two import games ever were Street Fighter II CE on HuCard and Neo Nectaris (would have been Military Madness 2 if released here) on Super CD. Got these both in late 1994.
SFIICE was a no-brainer, 20 meg of PCE-awesome. I think the largest HuCard ever.
But Neo Nectaris I wasn't sure of. It took a great article to convince me to get it, cause I was worried about not understanding the commands & units. EGM² issue #4 Oct. '94 had a two-page spread on Neo Nectaris and for the life of me, I cannot find scans of it anywhere.
note: I fixed the image for the 3rd PCE Duo article.
SFIICE was a no-brainer, 20 meg of PCE-awesome. I think the largest HuCard ever.
But Neo Nectaris I wasn't sure of. It took a great article to convince me to get it, cause I was worried about not understanding the commands & units. EGM² issue #4 Oct. '94 had a two-page spread on Neo Nectaris and for the life of me, I cannot find scans of it anywhere.
note: I fixed the image for the 3rd PCE Duo article.